4000 Series unpleasant “coloration”

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      cmp
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      Hey all! In spite of the 4000 series status I have two of them and have worked great in studio…. However, trying to use in a live rig I'm having issues with a "color" that's added. An unwelcome one…. HaHa! It's a low level noise that almost sounds like a phasing? It's present all the time. I use the units in a switching system just like running into an fx loop on a guitar amp. My question is, Could this be a level issue? I'm getting a decent level on front panel. I just don't get it as these were seemingly whisper quiet when mixing a record using them….. now not so much. Any advice would be appreciated…… except the obvious…. "just upgrade"….. HaHa!!! Much Thanks!!!

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      nickrose
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      Most likely cause is incorrect levels, then ground loops. You can get a phasing effect if you mix the output with the input when using a non-delay effect type.

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      cmp
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      Hey there, 

      Thanks for your reply! Are you saying the "phasing" occurs regardless of levels when output is mixed with input? Most of the effects I use are delay in nature…. Delay w/flange….. or delay w/mod etc. So not too many non-delay effects. I really need to get to the bottom of this to determine if it's worth keeping these or moving up…. I thank you in advance, and I'm sorry I didn't respond sooner. I did not know you offered help so long ago. Thanks!!!!!

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      nickrose
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      Eventide Staff

      Pretty much any analog-digital-analog process (meaning any digital effect, not just ours) introduces a small delay, usually a few milliseconds. If do an analog mix of the output of such a process with the input, you will usually get a phasing effect (to be exact, a comb filter effect like that produced by an unswept flanger).

      This does not usually occur with a delay-based (e.g. delay, reverb, pitch change) effect, since the above delay is usually tiny compared to the effect's delay. One normally avoids this problem by doing a digital wet/dry mix, where both the wet and dry signal are subject to the same delay. In most cases, you do not mix an undelayed effect, such as a compressor, with the dry signal.

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