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August 13, 2016 at 1:16 pm #113638markboormanParticipant
Hi all
Bit of a basic question so apologies in advance.My band wants to do a few tracks where I need to play dual guitar lines in harmony- Queen, Lizzy, you know the kind of thing. I have the H910 and Crystals algos but think the Diatonic one might be best suited. Am I correct? If not, what would you recommend?
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August 14, 2016 at 10:59 pm #144117brockParticipant
The Diatonic algorithm is what you want. Two additional harmonies, with both intervals constrained to scale & key. Plus a full featured dual delay, with some unique feedback routing. QuadraVox will give you four additional voices in scale & key. Both have the same maximum delay time, with QV carving that time into rhythmic patterns [no feedback]. Either one can enhance the doubling illusion with short delays & panning FX.
Keep in mind that for some of those classic songs, you’re going to need a way to change the harmony intervals, or even the key / scale at certain ponts in the song. An Aux switch, expression pedal, or MIDI can make those transitions easier, but switching between complementary presets would work.
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August 15, 2016 at 9:43 pm #144129markboormanParticipantbrock wrote:
The Diatonic algorithm is what you want. Two additional harmonies, with both intervals constrained to scale & key. Plus a full featured dual delay, with some unique feedback routing. QuadraVox will give you four additional voices in scale & key. Both have the same maximum delay time, with QV carving that time into rhythmic patterns [no feedback]. Either one can enhance the doubling illusion with short delays & panning FX.
Keep in mind that for some of those classic songs, you’re going to need a way to change the harmony intervals, or even the key / scale at certain ponts in the song. An Aux switch, expression pedal, or MIDI can make those transitions easier, but switching between complementary presets would work.
Thanks Brock. I run an aux and an exp pedal so should be able to work it out. Any suggestion on which one to get? I can’t see 4 harmony parts being common so the diatonic looks favourite as it has the 2 separate delays.
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August 15, 2016 at 11:54 pm #144133brockParticipant
Diatonic is the working man’s pitch algorithm. Two voice ‘intelligent’ harmonizer, any key, 13 scales. Pristine dual digital delays; 0 ms. to about 1.5 seconds. Zero to infinite feedback, and a unique, musical routing based on the longer delay time. PITCH MIX is in a position that allows delay trails and looping.
Four harmonies can get a little thick in a live scenario. Sometimes that can be a good thing [Hammond B3 from Hell; jazzy synth, or massive power chords from one or two notes; riff rock layered lines]. I don’t think that the pitch tracking suffers from adding 2 more voices. Like any pitch shifter, the formants can get a little ‘cartoon-y’ at the extremes.
Keep QuadraVox on your radar, though. The Delay Grouping can be amazing under pedal control. Scale-accurate arpeggios & ‘fingerpicking’, slapback 4 voice chords, and every delay rhythm in-between; all under foot control. More for originals and experimentation than a bread ‘n’ butter covers set. One practical technique is to take two harmonies, clone them, then spread those two doubled harmonies with short delay spacing and panning. Powerful stuff.
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August 16, 2016 at 11:46 pm #144142markboormanParticipant
Thanks- will try that
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