Timefactor dual delay in series.

I saw the same review and asked the same question over at the gear page. It seems to work well for me too! The only issue I've run into, is that you'll get some comb filtering when using the Looper. It'd be nice to hear Eventide's stance on this!

The Looper sums to mono at the input and is mono out.  So you get comb filtering b/c of the A/D, D/A conversion that adds latency when you plug inputs and outputs in series.  

Did you guys know that FilterPong is a series delay algorithm?  Just throwing that out there.  

spaceJam:

Hi,

I was reading this review of the Timefactor where it says that it's possible to run the dual delays in series instead of parallel, and it works fine indeed. I have discovered a whole new world of possibilities and I love the results.

Quote:

For guitarists who prefer to use 2 delays in mono and feed one delay into the other, there is an easy solution to achieve series operation with the TimeFactor. Use an extra patch cable to create this signal chain: Guitar → TimeFactor Left Input → TimeFactor Left Output → TimeFactor Right Input → TimeFactor Right Output → Amp.

URL: http://www.bestguitareffects.com/eventide-timefactor-review-best-twin-delay-effects-pedal/

I can't stop playing and trying different combinations since I discovered that.

Anyways, my question is if it's risky to keep doing that "hack" to get series delays.

Thanks.

It's not risky to do this at all.  

I suspect we have a fixed service charge, which in some cases covers a destroyed unit. If your problem is just a power jack, you might want to speak to a local tech instead (and save shipping costs).

Is it possible to the the above delay in series trick with the patch cable on the H9 as well? I am afraid to damage something so I want to be sure.

Is there any other algo on the H9 that has delay in series? I want to run delay A into delay B. is that possible with one of the delay algos? or maybe a pitch algo?

No ideas if this is possible or not? I need this sound for a gig. I can do it with my Axe fx but I only want to bring my H9 to this particular gig.

The cable method is a feedback loop 

Hey Bodde, to me this sound like the Delay Mix (A + B mix setting) was not set at exactly 50% or midway on the knob.  With the H9 Timefactor algs connected with both outputs in use, Delay Mix does two things: Panning to make sure output is centered and adjust delay output levels.  So when the Delay Mix knob is away from center you'll hear extra delays even when both delay feedbacks are at zero.

What complicates this further is that it's tricky to get the A + B mix exactly at 50% via Control or on the pedal.

I've attached a Vintage Delay preset where I hand wrote the Delay Mix setting to exactly 50%.  Can you import this Vintage Delay preset and give it a try with the cable method? All knobs work normally of course, but Delay Mix needs to stay where it is.

ok. I will give this a try later this week. Thanks!!

Don’t limit yourself when putting the delays in series by using a simple patch cable to make the Out1 to In2 connection.  This is a great spot for modulation, reverb or another delay!  I regularly put my ModFactor and Space in between the series delays for more tonal variety and textures.  A flanged slapback into a long ambient is pretty killer as is a dirty dotted-eighth note into an echo.  I’ve even tried my H9 (also in series) in the loop with my TimeFactor for four series delays.  Yes, it can be absolute shoegaze craziness but very fun and interesting too.