Strymon Dig sounds?

This is a little known Eventide “Easter Egg”, so to speak!  Check it out if you have the chance.

Thanks for pointing out that omission, Mystery H9Controller-person!  Correct me if I’m wrong here, but it also follows that Diatonic-type feedback routing:  The longer of the Delay A or Delay B times determines the overall feedback delay length for both.

One cool use of that ‘Easter Egg’ is to double the available delay time.  Sort of like the old DD20 trick, but without the patch cables.  In the preset below, a DELAY MIX of A0+B10 yields an initial 6 second delay.  Switching over to A10+B0 produces a 3 second delay, with the 2nd delay coming at nine seconds out.

This thread had me ‘digging’ into my catalog for some similar presets I had done in the past.  Not strict emulations (I don’t often seek that out), but something that might evoke the same kind of feel.  That is, if the Dig had the extended feature set of the H9 / TimeFactor algorithms.  [There’s some real weirdness going on here with the image resizing.]

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but it also follows that Diatonic-type feedback routing:  The longer of the Delay A or Delay B times determines the overall feedback delay length for both.

It's not quite the same as Delay Length and Feedback in Diatonic.  Looking briefly at the code, I believe there is one feedback path that runs out of Delay B and Feeds into Delay A.  So neither delay has a unique feedback path.

This is also how I'm hearing it so I think that's right.

One cool use of that ‘Easter Egg’ is to double the available delay time.  Sort of like the old DD20 trick, but without the patch cables.  In the preset below, a DELAY MIX of A0+B10 yields an initial 6 second delay.  Switching over to A10+B0 produces a 3 second delay, with the 2nd delay coming at nine seconds out.

I didn’t know longer delay time were possible on the H9. Thanks!I sometimes I feel limited with the 3 seconds delay when I do my Frippish soundcapes. Having 6 seconds of delay is really nice! Although 16 seconds would be better . That’s on my wish for the H9 (but is never going to happen because it is too much CPU I guess).

I have seem some videos of the Dig. Although I like the pedal I haven’t heard anything new on those videos. Wish Strymon would come with a more experimental delay pedal instead of something that can also be achieved with other delays that already on the market.

Brock, while I did not use your exact numbers, I did pick two long delay times that were separated by the golden ratio. I dialed a fair amount of feedback and added some low pass. This is whatI was looking for!

Thank you both again for taking the time to post.

  I usually run stereo, but I unplugged 1 input & 1 output to confirm.  Still series delays, and mixed to mono internally.  As for the Fibonacci series, I posted those numbers as a reference.  I’ve never been convinced that these ‘magical’ delay times have to be 100% spot-on to create a pleasing effect.  I go with what works.

  But I do like to plug them into different algorithms to take advantage of unique characteristics.  Vintage Delay for modulation, bit reduction & filtering, Digital Delay for delay splicing without pitch shifts, etc.  And Mod Delay when I need to fine-tune and emphasize the modulation with deep, complimentary waveforms:

This is also how I’m hearing it so I think that’s right.

  Now if I’d only pay attention to the Info tab documentation.  My reading & listening comprehension is usually a little better than that.  I like the fact that the feedback routings differ among the algorithms.  It presents a variety of configurations to exploit.  Thanks again for clarifying.

bodde wrote:

I didn’t know longer delay time were possible on the H9. Thanks!I sometimes I feel limited with the 3 seconds delay when I do my Frippish soundcapes. Having 6 seconds of delay is really nice! Although 16 seconds would be better . That’s on my wish for the H9 (but is never going to happen because it is too much CPU I guess).

I have seem some videos of the Dig. Although I like the pedal I haven’t heard anything new on those videos. Wish Strymon would come with a more experimental delay pedal instead of something that can also be achieved with other delays that already on the market.

  I remember reading here how you you prefer delay-style looping over the equivalent in the Looper algorithm.  I understand that.  For me, I like to take advantage of what the Looper does give me to work with.  I’ve adapted my approach to set the overall ‘delay’ time and go into Dub mode with two footswitch taps.  Then MIDI takes over to shift pitch+time, reverse, punch in, etc.  48 seconds is pretty grainy, but I can live with 24 second quality (especially in a live context).  I seldom go through guitar amps anymore, so this is through a full-range stereo system.

  As for the experimental delays, I’m with you there.  But you & I are certainly in the minority in that market-driven scenario.  Anything that was truly ground-breaking would also have to cover down-to-earth presets and ease-of-use.  But I will add that I’d like to see any garden-variety pedal compete with unusual settings like this:

Yes your memory is correct! I made a long delay topic some time ago. In this topic Eventide stated that longer delay times are were not possible on the H9 in the future. So I was glad to read about the 6 seconds in this topic. Although this is still not enough for me. For longer delay loops I use my Axe fx (max 16 seconds delay in the tape delay algo) or looping software. Sure you can do it with the looper and use dub mix but somehow I prefer to do this stuff with delays instead of the looper. Anyway, thanks again for the 6 seconds!