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    • #113633
      Project 150
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        Hi gang. Hello from Nashville. I play in a Beatles cover band and recently purchased an H9Max. I haven’t had much time to dig through all the patches, but is there an ADT type algorithm? Specifically looking for a tone like on “Nowhere Man.” Ok, I know those were really double-tracked, but surely this incredible little box has something that can approximate it…

        Thanks!

        GV

      • #144120
        brock
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          The MicroPitch algorithm is good for this, because it can blend three subtle pitch variations together.  But I’ll bet that about 1/3 of all algorithms are capable of some kind of doubling & ambient effect.

          So focus on the algorithm type that offers the most control over what’s important (to you):  pitch variations, timing delays, EQ fine tuning, picking strength, modulation of the delays, etc.  All feature panned positioning, so a multi-channel, multi-amp, or stereo setup helps to ‘sell’ the illusion.

          I like to map the PITCH / DELAY MIX control to an expression pedal, for varying the timing in real time.  Many of the preset FX below are mixed back.  You may want to start at a 50:50 MIX, and adjust it from there.

          An algorithm sampler:

           

           

           

           

           

        • #144122
          Project 150
          Participant

            Brock, thank you. These are great places to start! I’ll let you know which one I end up using on our next show. GV

          • #144807
            joegrant413
            Participant

              Hi,

              H9 Standard user here. I just discovered the joy of fattening up my tone with an H910/H949 setting here. I don’t see this algorithm used in this thread. Is the MicroPitch much better? Thx

              • #144816
                brock
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                  joegrant413 wrote:

                  Hi,

                  H9 Standard user here. I just discovered the joy of fattening up my tone with an H910/H949 setting here. I don’t see this algorithm used in this thread. Is the MicroPitch much better? Thx

                  Maybe in isolation.  The MicroPitch algo can focus more of its resources on a narrower range of pitch shift.  But I just A/B’ed the H910 / H949 preset (below), with the MicroPitch ‘Auto DoubleTrack’ preset (shown above). Among two H9’s, and a PitchFactor here, the two presets are not all that different in context.

                  The H910 / H949 preset is somewhat darker (no TONE parameter), and a little less animated (no LFO modulation).  I compensated by using one of the older models: H949-1.  [Each TYPE has it’s own character, colorations, ‘sweet spot’ for pitch changes, and degree of glitchy-ness.]

                  The point of my initial reply was to show how different algorithms can create similar effects.  Yet one or two parameters – unique to that algorithm – can tailor the effect (ADT, in these examples) to exactly what you want.

                  Here’s a perfect example:  Just tonight, I was experimenting with some Digitech Ricochet simulations.  I’d never considered using the PitchFlex algo for doubling before.  I stumbled upon this method by setting up a 50:50 MIX.  With an Aux / Performance switch in the H9’s – or with the FLEX switch on a PitchFactor – you can trigger doubling FX that sweep into ‘Hoover’ territory (and beyond).

                  Shift & return ‘ballistics’ can be customized independently.  The SHAPE of those sweeps are variable from ‘fast’, through linear, and ‘slow’.  Since FLEX is a momentary action, the doubling effects can be brief & shallow, or extended & deeper.  Control it with the hold & release times of your foot on the switch.

              • #144819
                joegrant413
                Participant

                  Thanks for the reply, Double Double!

                  – Joe

                • #145258
                  brock
                  Participant

                    This seems like the appropriate spot  to put this one.  Another unusual source for … unusual doubling effects.  It creates a tight little space around the input, with a bit of backwards ‘bloom’, slapback, and MicroPitch shifting.

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