H9 and/or FACTOR PEDALS MIDI CAPABILITIES

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- May 17, 2017 at 11:12 am #114169
  
  stmguitar
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  Hello Guys,
  
  i am considering adding an eventide unit to my setup: i read teh manual and explored the forum, and I have to say, I still am not sure about MIDI capabilities.
  
  I have a foot controller that sends midi PC from 1 to 120.
  
  This controller is connected via MIDIto the eventide pedal ( H9 or factor box)
  
  Than the Eventide box goes via MIDI to a Line 6 M5.
  
  Questions are:
  
  1) will the eventide Boxes ( H9 or factor box) have a fully programmable Midi PC map? so that , for example, by receiving PC 1 from the controller i’ll get preset 79 on the eventide???
  
  2) Will the eventide box, AT THE SAME TIME, being able to send out a different PC to the line 6 M5?
  
  so, for example:
  
  – controller sends PC 1
  
  – eventide receives PC 1 and switches to preset 79, it sends out PC 3 to the line 6
  
  -the line 6 switches to preset 3
  
  I read the manual and i could not understand that this type of mechanism is feasable or not in this way!
  
  Thank you!
- May 17, 2017 at 11:19 am #146420
  
  gkellum
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  STMGUITAR wrote:
  
  1) will the eventide Boxes ( H9 or factor box) have a fully programmable Midi PC map? so that , for example, by receiving PC 1 from the controller i'll get preset 79 on the eventide???
  
  Yes, the H9 or Factor has a MIDI receive map which maps program changes it receives to a user selected preset or action (bypass, toggle tuner, etc).
  
  STMGUITAR wrote:
  
  2) Will the eventide box, AT THE SAME TIME, being able to send out a different PC to the line 6 M5?
  
  The H9 or Factor has a MIDI transmit map, but I believe that applies to MIDI program change messages that are generated when load a preset on the stompbox. I don't believe it supports remapping one received program change event to a different transmitted program change event. (This functionality is described on pg 39 of the H9 user manual. https://s3.amazonaws.com/com.eventide.downloads/Product+Manuals/H9-UserGuide.pdf)
  
  Let me double check that…
- May 17, 2017 at 11:26 am #146421
  
  stmguitar
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  Thank you! Actually that manual is wgat o found a bit not clear cause it states ” to create a midi program transmit map” and. ” to create a midi program receive map” so that’s why it appears like is possible!
  
  Thank you for the support, awaiting for your check!
- May 17, 2017 at 3:39 pm #146429
  
  gkellum
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  Ok, I just double checked a received program change message is sent through the transmit map as well. So, you can set-up both maps so that:
  
  Received program change 1 loads preset 10 which transmits program change 20 when it's loaded
  
  But what's important to understand is that you're not mapping program change 1 to program change 20. You're mapping program change 1 to load a particular preset number, and that particular preset number can be mapped to send out a different program change number when it's loaded.
- May 17, 2017 at 3:45 pm #146430
  
  stmguitar
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  Great! so basically what i asked for is possible! yeah, it doen not matter that I have to program a different map as long as both maps can be programmed separately abd everything can be done via MIDI
  
  -is this possibile with both any of the factor pedals and/or the H9?
  
  thaank you
  
  short post scriptum question: is the lettering on the H9/FACTOR pedals programmable to display the preset name ( any word i want to call it)?
  - May 17, 2017 at 3:59 pm #146431
    
    gkellum
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    stmguitar wrote:
    
    -is this possibile with both any of the factor pedals and/or the H9?
    
    Well, it's possible in the H9 using the latest software release. That behavior isn't supported in the software that's currently available for the Factor pedals.
    
    stmguitar wrote:
    
    short post scriptum question: is the lettering on the H9/FACTOR pedals programmable to display the preset name ( any word i want to call it)?
    
    Yes, the preset names are user assignable and if they have more characters than can be shown on the display, they scroll when the preset is loaded.
- May 17, 2017 at 4:03 pm #146432
  
  stmguitar
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  Thank you very much!!
  
  I asked casuse, if I am not wrong, both the H9 and the factor pedals, have the same identical writing in the midi section of the manual!
- September 21, 2018 at 9:07 am #150127
  
  mjahoger
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  Hi,
  
  Where can I change the Program Change number the H9 is sending out (i.e., thru) when receiving a PC# on it’s MIDI input jack?
  - September 21, 2018 at 2:19 pm #150131
    
    gkellum
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    mjahoger wrote:
    
    Where can I change the Program Change number the H9 is sending out (i.e., thru) when receiving a PC# on it's MIDI input jack?
    
    In the H9s system settings there is a midi receive map and a midi transmit map. The H9 user manual explains the functionality of both maps.
  - September 21, 2018 at 2:42 pm #150134
    
    mjahoger
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    gkellum wrote:
    
    mjahoger wrote:
    
    Where can I change the Program Change number the H9 is sending out (i.e., thru) when receiving a PC# on it’s MIDI input jack?
    
    In the H9s system settings there is a midi receive map and a midi transmit map. The H9 user manual explains the functionality of both maps.
    
    Does this midi transmit map also apply to PC that are send THRU.
    
    I.e., if I send PC1 from an exteral midi controller, can the H9 send a different PC#, for instane PC4, on the MIDI THRU output jack?
- September 22, 2018 at 1:38 am #150140
  
  nickrose
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  If the unit is set to THRU, it sends exactly what it receives. No changes.
  - September 24, 2018 at 11:18 am #150145
    
    mjahoger
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    nickrose wrote:
    
    If the unit is set to THRU, it sends exactly what it receives. No changes.
    
    And if the unit is set to TRANSMIT, will it send the PC as soons as it receives a PC? Or do I need to transmit the PC manually after the H9 has received the PC?
  - September 24, 2018 at 3:17 pm #150148
    
    nickrose
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    Eventide Staff
    
    mjahoger wrote:
    
    And if the unit is set to TRANSMIT, will it send the PC as soons as it receives a PC? Or do I need to transmit the PC manually after the H9 has received the PC?
    
    Various answers here. If you have recent software which has the "XMT.PC" command on the System MIDI menu, it will send a PC (via the TX map) on receiving one if enabled.
    
    Otherwise you could set OUTPUT to MERGE, which combine THRU and XMIT. Note that this is unsuitable for heavy MIDI traffic.
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