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August 1, 2021 at 8:29 pm #116612John BayliesParticipant
The H9000 has a C/C++ plugin API used in collaboration with Cycling 74 to make plugins from Gen that run on the H9000. If you would like to utilize this, email support@eventide.com to have your Cycling '74 account registered.
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This algorithm is my edit of Peter Mculloch's Gen port of a version of the Moog ladder filter originally created at the Zurich University of the Arts by Beat Frei. It is 96kHz-compatible, but you'll have to scale the frequency parameters appropriately.. Here it is in action: https://etide.io/RGeof
in1 & in2 are summed, then split through a crossover (made by Graham Wakefield) whose frequency is set by the xovr_Hz parameter. The lows are effected by amplitude modulation, and the highs are effected by ladder filter frequency&resonance modulation. You will have to find/create your own audio-rate LFO to run these three modulation inputs.
- in3 Low amplitude (0 – 1)
- in4 Ladder frequency (0 – 1)
- in5 Ladder resonance (0 – 1)
- out1 lows
- out2 highs
- out3, 4, and 5 are the same as the inputs, except these outputs approach 1 as the dry_wet parameter goes from 100 to 0. These signals can be useful for controlling audio-reactive visuals.
Download: https://etide.io/FuBJa The 9ka file can be uploaded directly to the H9000 using "Algorithm > Import Algorithm" in Emote's menu bar.
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August 25, 2021 at 10:48 pm #158459patchenParticipant
This is very interesting! I do not have a Cycling 74 account but if this makes me want one! Is this a more user friendly or feature rich approach to WYSIWYG editing than Vsig? Currently just missing. ‘Containers’ or ‘Macros’ in Vsig for my usage. Otherwise it seems pretty great.
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August 26, 2021 at 5:48 pm #158462patchenParticipant
Great info, Thanks John! I’d like to look into this as time allows. I should say, it really would be nice to have container modules in Vsig! 🙂
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August 26, 2021 at 7:10 pm #158463John BayliesParticipant
Glad to help!
Vsig 2.0 has Supermodules, but they haven't made it into Vsig3 yet. Page 56: http://www.eventidier.com/pdfs/vsig20.pdf
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September 10, 2021 at 2:34 am #158635PuppeteerParticipant
Is there an estimate of timeframe for when the supermodule will be available, and whether a user can optionally protect a supermodule?
I used to do a lot of modelling in simulink and this functionality was invaluable, particularly when models got complex or had repetitive sections.
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September 10, 2021 at 4:22 pm #158636John BayliesParticipant
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August 26, 2021 at 4:12 pm #158461John BayliesParticipant
> Currently just missing. 'Containers' or 'Macros' in Vsig for my usage. Otherwise it seems pretty great.
Max/MSP calls those "abstractions" https://docs.cycling74.com/max8/tutorials/basicchapter15 keep in mind that these tutorials, while viewable online, are more useful when viewed in Max/MSP's reference window.
> Is this a more user friendly or feature rich approach to WYSIWYG editing than Vsig?
With Max/MSP, you can listen to your patch as you build it. If you go to the Max/MSP menubar and click "help > reference > Gen > Topics > Gen" you'll find many useful snippets. The main benefit of Vsig is that you get to use proprietary Eventide modules such as the reverbs, delays, pitchshifters, oscillators, filters, and soon-to-be-functional transient_split. Plus you can download 1000 examples from the H9000.
fun facts: vsig has about 258 modules. gen has about 156 objects.
vsig modules | gen examples
> I do not have a Cycling 74 account but if this makes me want one!
I should also mention that this requires Max/MSP, which has a 30-day free trial: https://cycling74.com/downloads
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> Is there an estimate of timeframe for when the supermodule will be available, and whether a user can optionally protect a supermodule?
No sir.
> I used to do a lot of modelling in simulink and this functionality was invaluable, particularly when models got complex or had repetitive sections.
Max/MSP has this functionality too and I agree that it's super useful.