New to forum – Is anyone using a Disaster Area DPC-5 Gen3 with a Rose?

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    • September 27, 2021 at 9:28 pm #116669
      Midievil
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      Hello all!! I’m new to Eventide and this forum.  I’ve having a horrible time trying to get this DPC-5 to communicate with my MIDI enabled pedals. Does anyone out there have any experience using the Rose with the DPC-5? What I do know is that Rose is not setup as one of the device choices in the DPC and support at Disaster suggested using Gen Midi. I was able to successfully scroll through the programs but I cannot get it to bypass the Rose and I don’t grasp the idea of sending a PC as a bypass command. Also, how would I get access to the other 25 patches from the hotswitch? Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. The existing documentation for Rose and DPC-5 is minimal at best. TIA!!

       

       

    • September 27, 2021 at 11:54 pm #158735
      joecozzi
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      Eventide Staff
      Midievil wrote:
      I was able to successfully scroll through the programs but I cannot get it to bypass the Rose and I don't grasp the idea of sending a PC as a bypass command.

      The DPC-5 Gen3 handles bypassing differently than other MIDI controllers because Disaster Area implemented their own style of bypassing. Their controllers are not fully programmable in that you can not tell the controller to send EXACTLY the messages you need in order for MIDI pedals to do what you want. Disaster Area prefers to do all the pre-programming from factory and they indicate which pedals are fully implemented in the back of the DPC-5 Gen3 user manual. That being said because Rose would be controlled as a "GENERAL MIDI" device, the bypass command that the DPC-5 sends in this mode does not correspond to the CC# Eventide has designated at factory, which is CC#28. Disaster Area's way around this is to have you save the loop that Rose is on in bypass mode; you would need to set this in "Manual Mode" (or FOOT mode). So if you ever recall a preset and Rose needs to be bypassed, you can just take it out of the loop. The other option is saving the preset on Rose in bypass mode, so when you recall that preset it will start out bypassed. Then you'll have to press Active on Rose to activate it.

      If this won't suffice, you may want to consider more programmable MIDI controller options. There are plenty that come with easy to use software. Even Disaster Area's MIDI Baby series are easier to program, in my opinion.

      Midievil wrote:
      Also, how would I get access to the other 25 patches from the hotswitch? Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. The existing documentation for Rose and DPC-5 is minimal at best. TIA!!

      The HOTSWITCH on Rose can only control Tap, INF repeat, Mod hold, Mod Reset, Alt A/B, phi, or delta, but changing presets is not one of them; that is, unless you consider going from A/B "changing presets."

      Only an external 3-button Aux switch can be made to increment/decrement/Load presets, however, this will only allow you to scroll through the first five presets. To access beyond the 5th preset, you will need to use a MIDI controller.

    • September 28, 2021 at 6:56 pm #158738
      Midievil
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      Thanks for the response Joe!!! How would I go about saving a preset on Rose so when it loads it does so in bypass? I’m using the loops for non-midi (i.e. drive) pedals only. The “create a patch in Rose that loads in bypass” is going to be my workaround for now. BTW – I was in contact with support at Disaster Area and it sounds like DPC support for the Rose is coming soon. Thanks again!!

    • September 28, 2021 at 7:01 pm #158739
      joecozzi
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      Eventide Staff
      Midievil wrote:
      How would I go about saving a preset on Rose so when it loads it does so in bypass?

      Simple, choose the preset you want, then deactivate it. Lastly, save it that way. Now every time it’s recalled, it will get called up in a bypassed state.

      Midievil wrote:
      I was in contact with support at Disaster Area and it sounds like DPC support for the Rose is coming soon. Thanks again!!

      That’s great news. We contacted them some time ago to support Rose and our new dot9 pedals. Thanks for the update!

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