Thanks badmelonfarmer.  I bought an eclipse and Im really impressed by it. Sounds wonderful but I see what you mean about the factor pedals being easier to program. There are a few of the pitchfactor algorithms I would like to see on the eclipse (harpeggiator and the lovely H910/949 emulation). Might just have to keep hold of my pitchfactor. My original plan was to buy the eclipse and sell my factor pedals. C'est la vie. They are all great gear.