Misha Sequencer options

Hello- thanks for writing

I can understand why in your example it seems as if it’s adding a 0 after every note- and actually it is, but technically the 0 isn’t being added to the tone row. Allow me to explain.

There are really two sequences going on. The first is the tone row, which you’ve recorded. Once recorded, the tone row itself cannot be altered- you can change how it’s played back in various ways, but there is no way to add new intervals to it.

The other sequence is called the “interval button sequence” and it specifies how you are navigating your tone row. By default, when you first record your tone row you hear it just as you recorded it, advancing one note in the sequence you recorded each time. In this case, the “interval button sequence can be represented as {+1}

The best way to really understand this is to turn your clock off in the clock screen (and have no pulse coming into the clock jack). Then record a tone row. Just as when the clock is on, when you have filled up the tone row you will transition from record mode to playback – the red Rec light will go off and the green playback one will go on – but with the clock off nothing more will happen. That is, it will not start playing the tone row by itself. Now press “+1” repeatedly- this advances you through the notes you’ve recorded in the order you recorded them, just as you would expect. But you can also advance through them in a different order. For example you can go backwards through the tone row by repeatedly pressing “-1”, or go by 2’s (skipping every other note) by repeatedly pressing “2”. You could alternate pressing +2 and then -1 for example and hear a pattern related to what you’ve recorded but it will take longer to cycle, etc.

Now turn the clock back on – it should be flashing the “+1” repeatedly as you hear your tone row.  The interval button sequence is just a way to automate what you just were experimenting with manually above.  Let’s say you liked what you heard when you played +1, -2, +3 in a cycle. So turn the clock back on and while the tone row is playing, now using the method you described (press and hold user 4 plus an interval button), add the second two of those 3 intervals to the interval sequence (the first, “+1” is already in there). As you add them you will see that the lights light up to indicate which one is being “played”. This sequence can be represented as {+1,-2,+3}, and it just means that the next note in the tone row will be determined by where you are in the interval sequence; I.e, first you will move one forward in your tone row, then back two and then three forward and then that cycle will repeat. This is an interesting way to get complexity out of your patterns, depending on how those intervals – and the length of the interval button sequence – relate to the number of notes in the original tone row.

As I mentioned, as  far as what you are trying to do – add an interval to an already recorded tone row – at the present time we don’t allow the user a way to do that.

Let me know if that makes things clearer.

Leon

Hello – thanks for writing

So the way things currently stand, once a tone row is recorded, it can’t be altered

But you can see in my reply to RP Gould above (#167765 – December 16, 2022 at 9:11 am), you can alter _how_ the tone row is played back, including by inserting special events into the “interval sequence”. One of those special events is a rest.

To try this out, first read the reply I reference above, and then once a tone row is playing and you are on the play mode screen (where you may see “PRIME” at top left), then press/hold user 4 (“+”) and press the UNDO key (⎌). At first this will just play the tone row at half speed, basically, but as you add other intervals to the interval sequence (press/hold user 4 (“+”) and press the interval buttons (“+1”, etc)), you can get that rest to appear only occasionally.

Let me know if that at least gives you something of what you are interested in.

Thanks

Leon

Great!

You know, actually, there are a few other options you might explore to get some rhythmic diversity in your sequence. What I described earlier is the only way to get rests Misha’s output if you are using the internal clock, or an external one – such as a clock in, or MIDI clock – which is regular.

But if you have the ability to send in pulses that are not regularly timed – say you send from a sequencer which has a rhythm to it, including rests, say – then you have a few options:

With a tone row playing black, you can send an irregular clock pulse – say from a sequencer – into Clock In.

You could send an irregularly timed series of gate signals into gate1, where you have that defined in settings, say, to advance the sequence by 1’s, or 2’s, etc.

Further, you can set up the pair of gate/cv1 such that the incoming voltage in combination with a series of irregularly timed gates plays the tone row in some creative order.

You could even follow that last suggestion and turn off the tone row and just ‘play’ Misha externally with such a sequencer, with whatever rhythm that sequencer has going.

Finally – those above suggestions relate to driving Misha from an some external device plugged into Misha’s Clock In.  I haven’t mentioned MIDI, because MIDI Clock is intended to keep linked equipment in sync, and is therefore regular; however, I’ve been told that software/plugins exist to send irregular MIDI Clock, which could be another way to introduce some irregularity to the rhythm.

OK – hope that helps. We are always curious to hear what people are doing with Misha, so post links if you have any music you would like to share

Thanks

Leon

Hello dave999z-

Thanks for your suggestions. Unfortunately I cannot provide a timeline for any updates at the moment.

Leon

Hello-

Glad you are enjoying the unit

Actually if I understand you correctly, the functionality you request is already in there, if you can split that clock and send it simultaneously to two places: clock in and X t/g In.

With those two cables connected, then go to settings/ cv in x:

range: make sure your range matches whatever is sending the clock

linking: unlinked (T)

trigger function: key mapping

Trigger mapping:

num 1:

type: chords

action: random

No other settings matter here

if you really want one chord per clock then you really should go into setup/clocking/ext clock PPQ and set to 1

I just tried this and it seems to work

you could also have it increment/decrement along the 9 chords

In that CV In menu you will see also you have other ways of varying the sequence

Let me know how it goes for you

Leon

Thanks – noted, regarding your idea for more examples in the manual. I think you can see that the list of possible triggers is pretty comprehensive, so it’s understandable that a user might not realize all the possibilities available.

Right now we don’t have a way to send a signal once a tone row has been played; however, you may be able to take advantage of the “Play Once” feature in some manner to do something similar.  (It’s in that same menu, under the Special category).  So you could then send a pulse in to both set that off and change the play mode – it’s tricky though since you’d have to get the timing of the pulses just right if you want it to sound seamless. I haven’t yet tried this myself – let me know how it goes for you

Leon

If you have an external clock divider module, that would be a good way to accomplish changing the playmode every time the sequence is completed. Misha will send a trigger for every pulse, if you send that trigger output from Misha to the clock divider, then you will only have 1 pulse for every X amount of triggers depending on the clock divider settings. Then, send that back to one of Misha’s trigger inputs to change the play mode (or something else!).

Hello-

Unfortunately, there isn’t a way for you to do that with MIDI or CV . It’s a very good idea though – and yes, changing note range is a powerful tool –  so we will log that request for a future update

it’s not quite the same, but if you know what key/scale you plan to be in, you could achieve this by creating different presets, each with a different note range. But I realize that’s not as general-purpose as you would like

Leon