Sound Difference Series vs Parallel with only 1 preset being used

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    • June 9, 2023 at 9:16 am #171832
      carouzal
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      So this morning while playing with my H90 I noticed something that seems strange.

      I am in dual mode, I added a flanger preset to the program in slot A, Slot B is thru.

      Using the routing control the same preset sounds completely different when I have the flanger in path B series vs parallel.

      I would think that with only one preset being used, the other is set to thru that the sound would be the same.

      Am I missing something here or is this expected?

       

    • June 9, 2023 at 9:24 am #171834
      joecozzi
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      Eventide Staff

      Can you give us some more insight into your setup? I know you’re using Dual mode, but are both presets on the same path or is there a preset per path? What Bypass Mode are you using? Are both sets of outputs,1&2 and 3&4, hooked up to the same type of input? Are you running all I/O at the same operating level?

    • June 9, 2023 at 9:25 am #171835
      tbskoglund
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      Eventide Staff

      Can you be more specific when you say it sounds completely different? If your presets are routed in parallel and one of them is a Thru preset, that is essentially create a separate dry path, so it should sound different than Flanger + Thru in series (in parallel, there will now be a lot more of the dry signal). If you turn Kill Dry on and bypass the Thru preset in parallel, that should sound more similar to the series routing.

      • June 9, 2023 at 10:06 am #171836
        carouzal
        Participant

        Bothe Flanger and thru are in path B. All inputs / outputs are set to instrument level, same operating level.

        The added dry signal makes sense, I will try a few more things when I have a chance and report back.

    • June 9, 2023 at 1:44 pm #171847
      PRSGUY513
      Participant

      Yeah, this is very likely a case of phase cancellation and filtering because the dry single is being mixed with itself and a time based effect among other timing and frequency anomalies.

    • June 10, 2023 at 6:14 pm #171870
      rxguitars
      Participant

      I’m having the exact same issue.

      It doesn’t matter the effect, but if I have any 2 effects in series and bypass one effect. Then when I switch to parallel with the same effect bypassed its sounds different than the effects in series and one bypassed.

      Roy

      • June 12, 2023 at 10:18 am #171905
        tbskoglund
        Moderator
        Eventide Staff

        Have you tried turning kill dry on? This may work better for you when you are using effects in parallel.

         

    • June 12, 2023 at 10:25 am #171907
      carouzal
      Participant

      I have not had time to play with this after my initial post but I will ask a general question.

      Im new to being able to run effects in Parallel, I do seem to like Reverbs and Delays split this way though.

      Do I want dry signal in both presets when doing this? Or should I only have dry signal in one preset.

      Really my plan is not to run a thru setting in parallel with another preset it was kind of an accident and was curious why the sound different.

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