Natural Feedback Creation Algo for H90

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    • June 18, 2023 at 4:48 pm #172005
      nico___
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      it would be nice to add this feature in some pitch algos or create  a dedicated one maybe.

    • June 18, 2023 at 10:34 pm #172008
      Puppeteer
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      I have built some on the H9000, but not sure I can migrate them to the H90

    • June 19, 2023 at 11:51 am #172011
      brock
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      Puppeteer wrote:

      I have built some on the H9000, but not sure I can migrate them to the H90

      I’m curious on how you structured that (the component algorithms / patching you used).

      I have a POG-like Program (DynaVerb OmniPressor -> PolyPhony) that I’ve considered modifying as a natural harmonic feedbacker.  Perhaps using the HotSwitches for FreqOut-like harmonic switching.  I’d need to re-configure some kind of trailing sustain into the mix.

    • June 21, 2023 at 8:23 am #172066
      nico___
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      interesting, where i can find your pog like algos? @brock

      • June 21, 2023 at 8:56 am #172068
        brock
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        There are a few up on PatchStorage, with more in the wings.  They get reasonably close, but are far from perfect.(I’ve gotten side-tracked lately on the impossible task of emulating all 32 Lexicon Vortex algorithms).

        If you d/l this particular one, the DynaVerb Threshold of -12.0 dB is too high of a trigger level for most systems.  Dial it up to ~ -36 dB (+/-).  I need to fix that one.

        https://patchstorage.com/approaching-a-pogee/

      • June 21, 2023 at 6:29 pm #172090
        coirbidh_99
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      • June 21, 2023 at 7:01 pm #172096
        brock
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        Quite frankly, I am catching Holy Hell by attempting to pull this off.  I have a Vortex here for 1:1 later on, but I wanted to get the H90 algo selection & placement down first.  No preconceptions.

        Which means trying to cram 4-8 distinct effects into two Presets, without relying on Inserts, or any non-standard external controllers [envelope follower].  True audio morphing is a lost cause; some of the cross-feedback routing just can’t be done (so far).

        I’m shooting for accuracy (otherwise, what’s the point?), but I may have to settle for “Inspired By”.  Or leaving out some of the “Registers”.

        Then again, every time I revisit the project, I get a “What if I used *this* algo instead?”.  So, still clinging on to hope here …

    • July 10, 2023 at 10:23 am #172364
      brock
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    • July 10, 2023 at 9:05 pm #172376
      Puppeteer
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      brock wrote:
      Puppeteer wrote:

      I have built some on the H9000, but not sure I can migrate them to the H90

      I’m curious on how you structured that (the component algorithms / patching you used). I have a POG-like Program (DynaVerb OmniPressor -> PolyPhony) that I’ve considered modifying as a natural harmonic feedbacker. Perhaps using the HotSwitches for FreqOut-like harmonic switching. I’d need to re-configure some kind of trailing sustain into the mix.

      The manual with the block diagram for one example is available here – https://godlike.com.au/fileadmin/godlike/patch/h9000/manuals/Dub_Delay_Para_User_Guide.pdf

      On the H9000 its possible to completely rewire things at the algorithm level, whereas the H90 seems to be more like rearranging existing algorithms, similar to a H9000 chain (I don’t own a H9 or H90). I’m not sure if it is possible to load a custom algorithm onto the H90 without Eventide’s help. I suspect that they use the same toolkit to build the H90 algorithms, but pretty sure they have a custom tool to prepare algorithms for the H90, as opposed to the H9000.

       

    • July 11, 2023 at 4:36 am #172382
      nico___
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      on the h9/h90 there is no way to “deep” modify algos, you can use only 2 algo on h90 (paralles or in series), you could put a second h9/h90 in the insert of other h90 for example, but it will be trickier to setup things

    • July 11, 2023 at 8:26 am #172383
      brock
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      Puppeteer wrote:
      Puppeteer wrote:

      The manual with the block diagram for one example is available here – https://godlike.com.au/fileadmin/godlike/patch/h9000/manuals/Dub_Delay_Para_User_Guide.pdf On the H9000 its possible to completely rewire things at the algorithm level, whereas the H90 seems to be more like rearranging existing algorithms, similar to a H9000 chain (I don’t own a H9 or H90). I’m not sure if it is possible to load a custom algorithm onto the H90 without Eventide’s help. I suspect that they use the same toolkit to build the H90 algorithms, but pretty sure they have a custom tool to prepare algorithms for the H90, as opposed to the H9000.

      Thanks for that.  Compression in a feedback loop (using a Beebo through the Inserts) showed promise.  It’s going to be a challenge to translate that to a universal H90 setup.

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