H90 reverb and delay trails when bypassing.

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    • January 21, 2025 at 9:16 am #187837
      Kristianso
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        Hi!

        I´ve been using the H9´s since they came out. Finally got myself a h90 now but there is one thing I can´t seem to figure out.

        I have always been using a super fast delay with a feedback of 100+% bypassed.  When I engage the pedal it creates this growing stutter effect of what i just played.

        Bypassing the pedal kills the effect of course which would go into mayhem if not. On the H90 when i use this setting the trails of the delay is still there when I engage the effect back on. I do not want that:(

      • January 21, 2025 at 2:18 pm #187845
        brock
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          Spillover time?  Default = 10 seconds.

          https://cdn.eventideaudio.com/manuals/h90/1.9.7/content/system-menu/global.html

        • January 21, 2025 at 2:44 pm #187846
          Kristianso
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            I tried that, but it does not work. As I understand it spillover only applies when switching programs. I dont want to switch program, I just want to bypass the algorithm.

            I also turned off tails which mutes the effect when i bypass, but when the time-based effect is set to go on forever its still there when i turn it back on. I kind of want it to loose its memory when i bypass the algorithm.

            Spillover and trails are off course very cool and useful features. But I really hope I can choose not to use it as well?

          • January 21, 2025 at 4:24 pm #187849
            brock
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              OK, how about Relay, instead of DSP?

              Program Bypass Mode, same page linked.

            • January 21, 2025 at 4:46 pm #187850
              Kristianso
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                Same thing, I tried that also.

                Thank you though!

              • January 21, 2025 at 6:12 pm #187851
                brock
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                  Strike two.  Winding up for one more pitch:

                  Which delay algorithm(s) are you using for this?  The subject includes reverb, so tell us about that algo selection, too.

                  Not one of my use cases, but maybe there is a workaround for ‘always listening’.  Each algorithm’s feedback path has some unique characteristics, so that may / may not figure into it.

                • January 22, 2025 at 3:09 pm #187875
                  Kristianso
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                    I´ve only been testing it with algorithms I imported from my H9´s.

                    A digital delay and a tape delay. Is “always listening” listening a setting somewhere?

                  • January 22, 2025 at 3:09 pm #187876
                    Kristianso
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                      I´ve only been testing it with algorithms I imported from my H9´s.

                      A digital delay and a tape delay. Is “always listening” listening a setting somewhere?

                    • January 22, 2025 at 3:58 pm #187878
                      brock
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                        Kristianso wrote:

                        … Is “always listening” listening a setting somewhere?

                        No, just a descriptive phrase I picked up, probably from looping.  Due to the way it’s internally routed, some looper / delays may still ‘feed’ the delay line, regardless of mix or bypass status.  Consider that to be the exact opposite of the behavior you’re looking for.

                        I have a few H9s, but none with the factory presets still intact.  So the original Digital Delay & Tape Delay algorithms, ported from TimeFactor.  It’s someplace for me to start.  Please check that your Feedback levels are a little less than 100%.  From 101-110 (and sometimes less) easily gets into runaway feedback that is difficult to shake. (Reloading the Program does work).

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                        My first thought is that you can make the H90 Looper do exactly what you’re describing,  Short Record time, Autoplay mode, Loop Decay 0.  You wouldn’t be using Bypass, probably a HotSwitch to bring the ‘stutter’ in & out.

                        Along those same lines (only in the H90), you can try giving Head Space a spin.  Sticky Tape is great, but not for this maximum Feedback application.  My go-to for digital delay FX would be UltraTap.  I’m not sure yet whether it can produce the results you are looking for.

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