Eventide H90 MIDI PC Change and Bypass at the same time

Looking at the log files I’m assuming the MIDI bypass messages are being ignored:

‼️ [TRPCMessageBroker.h:147].midiReceived > Ignoring inbound message ID:0x1d due to pendingResponseID:0x1b
‼️ [TRPCMessageBroker.h:147].midiReceived > Ignoring inbound message ID:0x19 due to pendingResponseID:0x1b

Any information what this means?

That’s really a bother and not something I’d expect from such a high price point. I’ve noticed I’m not the only one with this use case and having to load everything disengaged and engaging it from another preset means I lose the flexibility of having one preset for each program but I would need to have 4 to cover each use case of A/B being bypassed.

I guess I’ll be returning the H90 and keeping the H9 since at it’s current state the H90 is unusable for my purposes.

Just to comment that the Program level active/bypass does not work when sending PC+CC messages. I have tried it several times. No CC messages get recognised after sending the PC. I will contact support.

Apparently it should work with firmware 1.8.6. I’ll try downgrading it and confirm.

I can confirm that the MIDI switching works with 1.8.6. At least from initial testing. I’ll have to check if it causes any audible difference or lag when using it in a signal chain.

Just an update: H90 edit now doesn’t work. It only tells me that a software update for the H90 is required and won’t let me into the preset editor. So basically I have to chose if I can use the pedal the way I intended, or if I want to use the editor.

This makes it somewhat useless, doesn’t it?

I understand that you need version 1.7.11 of the H90 edit to use the previous firmware, not the latest one, but I can’t download the previous version of the editor.

Thank you for the continued support.

In conclusion I will be selling my H90 because the poly pitch just doesn’t work as well as my Line 6 devices. I wanted it to replace my H9 but the ease of use of the editor on that pedal is so much better than the H90 control. This is of course preference but along with all the other issues a dealbreaker for me.

I tried giving it another shot before selling it but it blows my mind why there is no option to send a Midi CC to have it ON at 127 and OFF at 0, or at least like the H9 did have the option to assign one CC to ON and another to OFF. The only option is to toggle, so if I’m using a switcher I have to know exactly what sequence I’ll use to turn it on or off.

Absolutely unusable

Then it doesn’t work with the firmware version 1.8.6. that allows additional values to be recognised by the device after a PC change.

I tried sending 127 to “P Act/Byp” and it will change the state from say bypassed to active. Sending 127 on the same CC again bypasses it from active. I would expect by the manual that 0 would be bypass and 127 active, but 127 just toggles it. So there is no way to definitely send a value for Bypass.

Using “P Act/Byp (M)” does the same but only activates it for a brief moment.

In that case the other MIDI devices I have would have the same issue, but they don’t. I use a Strymon and a Line 6 device with the same EFX LE controller and none of them have the issue. All of them have the same CC logic where 127 is on and 0 is off.

That’s ok, I’m just stating the issues I was having in case someone else has reported the same issue. The same issue persists with the Tuner function, sending 127 activates the Tuner, sending 0 does nothing. I have to send 127 again for it to deactivate.

Here’s another thing to add to a wishlist for future improvement: As of now, the H90 Control app does not provide a direct interface to set the tempo (BPM) for individual presets. Tempo adjustments are primarily managed through the H90 hardware itself.

This was doable in the H9 and surely people would want this.