Thanx Brock, i wondered if saving a bypassed preset would do the trick but forgot to try it, my gear isn't set up at the moment, all my gadgets are in their boxes waiting to be mounted on a pedalboard that i haven't acquired yet, also 'underwood directed me to a link concerning the time factor which may be another solution but haven't yet checked if the midi implementation on the mod is exactly the same as the time factor, will try out and post results, thanx for your input, dennis
