Boss Dimension C (D) settings?

[Boynigel]

I recently saw the YouTube video of Pete Thorn’s demo of the Boss DC-2W Waza Craft pedal and immediately knew I wanted one. But before I jump the gun I was wondering if anyone has had any luck duplicating those sounds via the H9.

The H9 choruses have never really knocked it out of the park for me but if someone here can prove me wrong with some convincing settings I’d be forever grateful.

I think the “trick” with the Boss is that it’s doing its thing via delays rather than LFO’s but maybe I’m wrong?

[mjahoger]

In order to find the same sound, it is good to know how the DC2 gets its sound. I fiund this in an online review:

Using all‑analogue audio circuitry, and based around charge‑coupled delay‑line chips, the DC‑2W shares some of the basic concepts of a conventional chorus pedal, in that it utilises modulated delay lines — but it does so in a far more subtle way. The effect is achieved by using dual modulation sections running out‑of‑phase with each other, each having its own internally set depth and rate parameters, along with cross‑feedback networks that connect the sections. Adding feedback in this way adds further complexity to the effect, giving the impression that there are more than two modulation processes at work — so you don’t hear the familiar churning sound inherent in typical chorus effects. To enable all the modulation options to be delivered with precision in a pedal‑sized enclosure, the LFOs and control circuits in the DC‑2W are digital — though I should stress, for those care deeply about this sort of thing, that the audio signal path itself is entirely analogue. In the original DC‑2, which had only a mono input, everything — both the audio signal path and the control circuitry — was analogue. (Source: https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/boss-dc-2w-dimension-c)

Now, I am not aware whether the H9 has any stereo chorus algorithms that flip the phase, but I think you can get a very similar sound with the Micropitch algorithm, or alternatively setting up a chorus with a very slow rate.

Hope this helps.

[Boynigel]

Right, I’d seen that review too. Just not sure how to go about it or what the best algorithm was to achieve that effect. I think you’re on the right track with Micropitch though. So far I’ve gotten pretty close with the Pitchfuzz algorithm…go figure. Gonna try digging in on the micropitch algorithm as it has more parameters specific to what I’m looking to do.

That said I’m still open to hearing from anyone else who’s tried to go after the Boss Dimension sound. Thanks

mjahoger wrote:

In order to find the same sound, it is good to know how the DC2 gets its sound. I fiund this in an online review:

Using all‑analogue audio circuitry, and based around charge‑coupled delay‑line chips, the DC‑2W shares some of the basic concepts of a conventional chorus pedal, in that it utilises modulated delay lines — but it does so in a far more subtle way. The effect is achieved by using dual modulation sections running out‑of‑phase with each other, each having its own internally set depth and rate parameters, along with cross‑feedback networks that connect the sections. Adding feedback in this way adds further complexity to the effect, giving the impression that there are more than two modulation processes at work — so you don’t hear the familiar churning sound inherent in typical chorus effects. To enable all the modulation options to be delivered with precision in a pedal‑sized enclosure, the LFOs and control circuits in the DC‑2W are digital — though I should stress, for those care deeply about this sort of thing, that the audio signal path itself is entirely analogue. In the original DC‑2, which had only a mono input, everything — both the audio signal path and the control circuitry — was analogue. (Source: https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/boss-dc-2w-dimension-c)

Now, I am not aware whether the H9 has any stereo chorus algorithms that flip the phase, but I think you can get a very similar sound with the Micropitch algorithm, or alternatively setting up a chorus with a very slow rate.

Hope this helps.

[brock]

Boynigel wrote:

… So far I’ve gotten pretty close with the Pitchfuzz algorithm…go figure …

I’ve tried that, as well.  I won’t attest to the accuracy, but I recall shooting for various ‘switch positions’ over the expression pedal travel.  It mixes short delay times with micro-pitch shifts, and changing their levels.

https://www.eventideaudio.com/presets/?search=multi-dimensions

Boynigel wrote:

… Gonna try digging in on the micropitch algorithm as it has more parameters specific to what I’m looking to do. That said I’m still open to hearing from anyone else who’s tried to go after the Boss Dimension sound …

Here’s a thread with some more settings for the Mod Delay & HarModulator algorithms.

https://www.eventideaudio.com/comment/10848#comment-10848

https://www.eventideaudio.com/comment/21622#comment-21622

[bohan]

Boynigel wrote:

I recently saw the YouTube video of Pete Thorn’s demo of the Boss DC-2W Waza Craft pedal and immediately knew I wanted one. But before I jump the gun I was wondering if anyone has had any luck duplicating those sounds via the H9. The H9 choruses have never really knocked it out of the park for me but if someone here can prove me wrong with some convincing settings I’d be forever grateful. I think the “trick” with the Boss is that it’s doing its thing via delays rather than LFO’s but maybe I’m wrong?

I would recommend you check out the factory presets "F11 Backing Vocal", "F13 949 Chorus", and "F26 FAT H910" of H910/H949 algorithm with an expression pedal. See more detail in the attached screenshots.

[Hermetech]

I’ve owned the Roland SDD-320, Boss DC-2 and DC-3, and now use a custom Fromel Seraph Deluxe for dimension chorus sounds. Whilst you can’t nail it exactly, you can get something pretty similar. Here are the best three presets I sometimes use, either taken directly from the links Brock posted, or slightly edited.

[bengarland]

Why are all of the eventideaudio.com links in this thread 404?

[tbskoglund]

Sorry, our forum changed a little while ago and some older links are broken.

I fixed the link for the multi-dimension preset: https://www.eventideaudio.com/presets/?search=multi-dimensions

I’m unable to track down the other comments but someone may be able to help with that if you need.

[brock]

tbskoglund wrote:

…I’m unable to track down the other comments but someone may be able to help with that if you need…

I’m not 100% certain, but at least one of them may have originally pointed to this (H9) thread:

https://www.eventideaudio.com/forums/topic/h9-automatic-double-track-patch/

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