Brand New to the H90

[treillw]

I’ve spent a couple hours messing with my new H90 and I’ve never had anything like this before – pretty clueless.  I notice that a few of the programs will significantly drop the volume of the amp when compared to the bypass signal volume.  What is the best way to adjust for this?

Playing with the gain out level seems to help, but even then I couldn’t get it loud enough.

Ideally I’d like the bypass signal and the modified signal to be the same volume.

Thanks!

[joecozzi]

Hello treillw,

First, since you are new to the H90, make sure you’re on the latest firmware. Be sure to download the latest version of H90 Control and update the pedal. Since its release, there have adjustments to the gain structure that may play a role in what you’re experiencing.

From factory, the pedal is set to operate at instrument level. What is your signal chain like? Are you going guitar into H90 into an amp, or do you have it in another position?

 

 

[treillw]

Thanks Joe.  I currently have it in my amp effects loop.

[joecozzi]

Sounds like there’s a signal mismatch. Most amp effects loops function at line level, not instrument level. Go into the H90 system menu > I/O > and set “In 1/2” to Line. On the second page set “Out 1/2” to line as well. These parameters can serve to match the signal going through the amp’s effects loops.

For me, the best way to ensure the H90 is setup properly, I like to use an INIT Program, which you find on the User 2 Playlist. They are just programs that consist of two THRU utility algorithms. They are set for unity gain, so it’s the perfect way to ensure that whenever the pedal is bypassed or activated the signal should not change. Set your input and output operating levels (instrument or line) so that you don’t hear any change at all. Then you’ll start with the optimal foundation to start making adjustments to factory programs.

[treillw]

So this does not happen with ever program.  For instance, “paradise clean” will be a comparable volume level to my pure amp signal, but switching to the “clean ambient” program bumps volume up probably 30%.  Going to another random program may drop the volume by 50%.

I tried a program with thru thru on list two like you suggested.  There is no appreciable volume difference between when my effects loop is on and off.

[joecozzi]

It’s best to make adjustments on a case by case basis. This is usually necessary anyway because we all use guitars with different pickup configurations so we should be aware of the tools available to make adjustments. If you’re happy with the balance of both effects but you notice a discrepancy in level between active and bypass, then I would try adjusting the Program’s Out Gain. The available 12 dB of gain should be way more than enough to balance out an irregularities, but in the case that it’s not, the In Gain may be too low to begin with and you can add more volume there.

If you’re ever going to bypass one of the effects during a performance, a good strategy begins with bypassing preset B while working with A by itself. Adjust In and Out gain so that alone there is no difference when active or bypassed. Then, repeat the process with Preset B. Then add both together and make changes to the program as a whole.

Keep in mind, the same can be done with the inserts.

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