H90 global gain/volume

[kevo888]

<p style=”text-align: left;”>Is there a way to control gain/volume of H90 globally…or is it only via each program/preset?</p>

[gehiere]

Chiming in on this question. I’m finding that many of the H90 presets are significantly and noticeably louder than unity gain which is discouraging me from using them without making my own adjustments to each one.

For example, program 2 “Clean Ambient” seems to be almost 5dB louder than unity gain (input gain for this program is set to 0.8dB by default but probably needs to be -0.1).

[joecozzi]

Hi gehiere,

Everyone’s system and use cases are different. How are you connecting the H90? Are you not using it in a guitar scenario? Are you running things at a different impedance?

[gehiere]

Thanks for your reply. I think my setup is fairly conventional: My guitar goes into a Strymon Iridium, then the left and right output from the Iridium is connected to inputs 1 and 2 on the H90. Outputs 1 and 2 from the H90 go to my Audient interface’s D.I. inputs.

As I’ve spent more time with the unit I’ve noticed that some patches are quieter and some are louder, so what I’m noticing is probably how the sound designer intended it to be. A master volume won’t fix that, I think I just have to tweak the patches I like manually.

[joecozzi]

You’re probably right. Since you’re running the H90 post cab sim and into an audio interface, it may be better to running the I/O at line level instead of instrument level. Experiment with both to see what works best.

[joecozzi]

Hi kevo888,

Yes, you may assign an external controller to “P In Gain” or “P Out Gain” of all Programs in the Systems Settings > Global > Global-Pedal Ctl

[dermotwatson]

HI, coming in on this…having spent some more time with the H90, it feels unlikely to me that the disparity in gain/volume is a design feature. It feels more like a bug to me.

[jm345]

I also have noticed a large difference in output volume with some of the presets.

[ear5555]

My experience has been the same. The volume levels of the factory presets are all over the map.

[allenh]

I’ve been experiencing this problem and it seems to relate (at least partly) to the mix control.

 

For example on preset 1 ambient delay if you turn the program mix down as you approach 50 the level increases dramatically and then as you go down to zero it returns to unity. I understand that the designer has an issue as the mix changes the levels need to be managed, but either they have got the algorithm for volume/mix wrong or it is interacting with the volume/mix of each individual preset in the program in a negative way.

The problem is so bad for me that I get a little distortion on the digital delay at times.

[sellersg]

Any fix for this?  I’ve definitely noticed a huge difference in volume from one preset to the next.  I’m just running it directly into a fender deluxe.

[joecozzi]

Yes, it’s true, there are some inconsistencies between programs and it may stem from the variety of sound designers that worked on H90. However, all Program/Presets can be easily adjusted to work with your setup. You just have to decide what method works best – adjusting Program output gain, preset gains or both, depending on the effects routing.

[sellersg]

Ok thank you!

[honeybrew]

joecozzi wrote:

Yes, it’s true, there are some inconsistencies between programs and it may stem from the variety of sound designers that worked on H90. However, all Program/Presets can be easily adjusted to work with your setup. You just have to decide what method works best – adjusting Program output gain, preset gains or both, depending on the effects routing.

I think would be best to level up all the presets by factory, so users don’t have to spend time on fixing this or risking equipment or hearing damage due to unexpected overloads.

[njdelyster]

honeybrew wrote:

joecozzi wrote:

Yes, it’s true, there are some inconsistencies between programs and it may stem from the variety of sound designers that worked on H90. However, all Program/Presets can be easily adjusted to work with your setup. You just have to decide what method works best – adjusting Program output gain, preset gains or both, depending on the effects routing.

I think would be best to level up all the presets by factory, so users don’t have to spend time on fixing this or risking equipment or hearing damage due to unexpected overloads.

 

Yes agree! It makes a lot of sense for factory levels to be matched vs expecting users to navigate the unit and make all the edits. This will also make ‘resets’ much more friendly so levels don’t go out of whack again.

[patric oconnor]

Also wishing the H90 had a global master for I/O . Having to go through each preset and change the levels is super tedious…

[keenast]

I’m new to the H90 and the very first ‘issue’ I fight with is that ‘volume’ is all over the place, there really is no reason why that have to be. Calling that an inconsistency is a bit off 😉 That inconsistency seems to exist so quite a long time and could/should have been fixed a long time ago. Maybe publishing a bug/fix/update….

[tbskoglund]

We may change the factory programs to have more consistent levels in the future. For now, you can adjust the factory preset/programs using the gain parameters and save them to your liking.

[it723]

We need to fix this volume issue.

[CoyoteKnife]

It’s a MASSIVE oversight and frankly embarrassing and beneath them.

[tbskoglund]

We have plans to update the Factory Program list in a future update. Sorry for the inconvenience.

[CoyoteKnife]

That is amazing news. I know my original comment sounds harsh but I absolutely love my H90. The Vintage Delay algo is insanely good. Vastly prefer it over EVH SDE3000 or my Source Audio Collider.  Not to mention the newest verb algo or heck the best micropitch on planet Earth.

It’s so good sounding into my SLO that two of my buddies who heard it immediately went out and bought an H90 and a Soldano.  That says it all.

Anyways thanks for doing what y’all do. Sorry for being harsh.

[keenast]

Unfortunately this is very old news – how many years has this thread been going on..? It’s Eventide’s running joke by now.

quote: Yes, it’s true, there are some inconsistencies between programs and it may stem from the variety of sound designers that worked on H90. However, all Program/Presets can be easily adjusted to work with your setup. You just have to decide what method works best – adjusting Program output gain, preset gains or both, depending on the effects routing.

Here we go, one and a half years ago –  called inconsistencies that can be easily adjusted…well then…?

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